trusts and societies
Vivienne Holm avoids important questions
Below is the email received from Vivienne Holm with regards to the post Open letter to Vivienne Holm Policy analyst for land information NZ .. concealment of corruption
I have published the message in full with my response I have also updated the earlier posts to reflect Holms views
the questions which I have and would like to see an answer to are
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1. Why did Two Barristers approach a resource management Law clerk who was working for brookfields from home for legal advice ?
see Hoadley decision ” Mrs Hoadley on behalf of AWINZ instructed Brookfields as a source of independent legal advice.”
see Hoadley response ” AWINZ Trustees resolved to seek legal advice and assistance from Brookfields Barristers and Solicitors.”
Nick Wright in his response narrative of facts states ” Initial contact was made by Mr Wells to Ms Vivienne Parre (who was at that time married to Mr Wright). Ms Parre was employed at Brookfields at the time, and the instruction in turn came to Brookfields.”
Vivienne Holm Told the law society investigator that she was a law clerk see copy of ltr 11 May to Holm with file notes of conversation SAQ and Holm 18 May 2011
The law society in their decision on Holm 4192 completed decision Vivienne Holm state
6] In 2006 Vivienne Holm worked at Brookfields as a law clerk. She did not have a practising certificate until 15 August 2006 when she became an employed solicitor at that firm. At that time she was married to Mr Nick Wright, about whom Mrs Haden has also complained, and came into contact with Mrs Haden because she knew Neil Wells.
next question
2. In her complaint to the Private security Licencing authority Holm claims “First, I held a practising certificate throughout 2006 as confirmed in the email from the NZLS attached annexure H.
I enquired with the law society and was told that they did not have the records as the records in 2006 were held by a different society which folded when the new legislation came in .( 2008)
I stand by my Enquiries at the time and the findings that the law society came to, ie that you were a law clerk and did not hold a practicing certificate until august I cant see what the big deal is other than that you too can see that there is no logic in two barristers instructing a law clerk. the email copy which you sent is not evidence , it is hearsay and therefore rejected .
3. my contact with you was in 2006 when you phoned me and intimidated me and attempted to blackmail me by making threats against my private investigators licence if we did not change the name of out legally incorporated trust
Why do you consider this defamatory when the evidence speaks for itself .
see emails from vivienne parre
Note Vivienne has been married a number of times her names have been Parre Holm and Wright
4. in the emails mentioned above you say ” I simply wish to alert you to the fact that in my view your registration of the name “AWINZ” and your website are illegal.” what is the basis for this ? we proved through registration and our website clearly proved that we had incorporated to prove that the AWINZ with law enforcement authority did not exist , this was of major public interest.
evidence was sent to you from the registrar of companies see here
So how is it illegal to prove that something which plays such a pivotal role in society is a fraud and why did you go all out and sustain an attack on me for a further 12 years to keep this fraud concealed
5. you contacted me via netsafe to support a complaint under the harmful digital communications act with regards to a post on transparency in 2011 which predates the act . If there was anything incorrect with this why not simply communicate with us and seek a correction .Why did it take till 2016 for you to contact me again
Next contact almost exactly a year later
6. in december 2017 you again contacted me again you made threats against my PI licence , why make threats when if something had been lost in interpretation with net safe and myself it could have been resolved with simple non threatening communications, each time you come at me in the most aggressive manner . Every contact contains a threat of one sort or another .
Despite a most civil response and the promise to provide clarification you made a complaint to the private security licencing authority alleging very serious wrong doing for which you did not provide any evidence .
You even tried to imply something sinister in my arrival at your house in 2006 when I attempted to seek resolution as a result of your threats
7. you state “I note that I gave you a letter from the New Zealand Law Society rebutting your claims about me weeks ago. ” I do not recall getting such a letter are you referring to annexure H ? if not please send me the letter you are referring to happy to look at it and publish it
Now you are threatening defamation again , and no, I don’t know that you are suing me , I do not assume such things . I have repeatedly asked you to point out what you think is defamatory and you will not tell me. Resolution apparently not high o n your list as you know you will have to eat humble pie . as I have said its never too late to apologize
May I remind you that defamation is a two edged sword and at this stage it appears that I have the evidence that you have been defaming and blackmailing me To tell someone to change the name of a legally formed trust or risk losing their professional licence is black mail I have the evidence that I have been speaking the truth .
The fact which matters is that AWINZ the approved organization was not the same as the trust which you claim you were instructed by.
Please Vivienne You are a policy analyst it defies belief that you don’t know about identity 101
- an unincorporated trust which does not have a trust deed, trustees or assets cannot make an application for law enforcement powers
- Neil Wells did not have a trust deed in March 2000 to give the minister a copy, this was two weeks after two copies had allegedly been signed
- Why was Wells claiming that AWINZ existed in 1998 , if it existed it could have incorporated 10 times over , but he was using his position as advisor to the select committee to feel every one so that he could make a fraudulent application to the minister.
- It is this fraud that you have strived so hard to cover up , I can prove it and I welcome your defamation action to prove the truth. the reality is that due diligence would have prevented 12 years of hell for me.
- Last time you initiated definition proceedings with your then husband Nick never proved the content of the statement of claim, it is full of lies and seriously misleads the court , you had my defence of truth and honest opinion struck out so that you could win.
- I call that dirty law it is against the rule of law and only unethical lawyers act in that way, the law society investigated but because this transition over the implementation of new legislation you got out of it this is the decision for nick wright decision
- It is of note that Nick Wright wright response narrative of facts wrote on a letter head for a fictional company a undefined trading name something which cannot enter into a contract and after he had been a committed patient which appeared to escape the law societies notice as to his suitability to hold a practicing certificate.. it gets better all the time see] WRIGHT v ATTORNEY-GENERAL (NEW ZEALAND POLICE) [2017] NZHC 2865 [22 November 2017]
as a subtle reminder as the lawyer you are obliged to comply with section 4 of the lawyers and conveyancers act
(a) the obligation to uphold the rule of law and to facilitate the administration of justice in New Zealand:
(d)the obligation to protect, subject to his or her overriding duties as an officer of the High Court and to his or her duties under any enactment, the interests of his or her clients.
Any way your email in response to the post is below and my response back to you to which you replied “Thanks for the response Grace, that’s fine.”
From: Grace Haden <grace@verisure.co.nz>
Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2018 5:09 p.m.
To: ‘Vivienne Holm’ <karen161970@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Open letter to Vivienne Holm Policy analyst for land information NZ .. concealment of corruption
Thank you Vivienne
No I will not accept service email
I am happy to make any corrections and will update the posts using your emails as reference.
I am happy to resolve anything but I suspect you are looking for a fight .
The reality is that I checked with the law society and I have been told by them that they do not have the records for 2006 as this was a different society
You escaped the wrath of the law society because the act changed in 2008
I am happy to put an Asterix and a foot note to the posts to clarify your view and the evidence which I obtained at the time and the findings of the law society
I cannot understand why you think that a simple letter can over turn the findings of the law society committee , and you call me unhinged !!!!
I will welcome your defamation proceedings it will once and for all blow the lid on AWINZ .
It is simply beyond me that a policy analyst cannot discern what a trust is or what a lie to the minister is
You have concealed corruption you know that you have to attack me because you are so scared of your own neck
This is nothing more than vexatious you have built up to this over the years probably because you see this way of getting some money due to all your pro bono mindless work.
Sit down Vivienne and have a very good hard think about the reality of AWINZ the law enforcement authority which the trust deed 1.3.2000 which had not been seen prior to 2006 concealed
Also check out the lies that Neil wells told the minister and ask yourself why you never questioned how wyn Hoadley became a trustee of a trust which was missing a deed had no assets and had never met prior to 10 may 2010
Why would two barristers instruct a law clerk working from home and why did you tell Sally Quigley that you were a law clerk.
Open some of the evidence on the site Vivienne look at it do your job you have been covering up for a fictional organisation by consistently attacking me .
Your credibility would be enhanced if you looked at the things which simply do not stack up and say .. oops sorry
I will have no reason to blog about you and AWINZ once the attacks on me stop.
I have the evidence , I will be asking for security for costs and I will get a top lawyer so be prepared .
Will put this up on transparency tomorrow. In the interest of transparency
Its never too late to apologise , this can be resolved amicably you just need to stop attacking me
happy to sit down with a mediator if you pay
Regards
Grace Haden
Copy of letter to Vivienne Holm -Policy analyst – land information NZ –
Vivienne Holm You could have made a massive difference to many lives by asking questions in 2006 , instead I felt bullied by you when you concealed the corruption that was AWINZ.
AWINZ was not just any old organisation there were only two private law enforcement organisations in New Zealand , AWINZ was one of them ( RNZSPCA the other ) AWINZ did not exist you covered it up and 12 years latter are still on the attack . I have had enough.
The purpose of this open letter is to get some issues into the open , you are a policy analyst employed by the government directly as a contractor and apparently as an employee For LINZ.
You are reportedly a lobbyist and as such I see the connection between you and Wells .
see Lifting the lid on lobbying in politics ..When lobbyists are handed control
As such it is in the public interest that you act with integrity and that your actions are exposed .
As to integrity it is my professional opinion is that your does not reach the threshold for a public servant It is my considered opinion that a person with integrity would not seek to damage some ones reputation so that corruption could be concealed.
I am no longer a private Investigator , you are very much the reason for this, by giving up my career I am free from the constraints of the Private security Licencing authority ( PSPLA)which I believe you and your associates have been stirring up for years in an attempt to discredit me . You say so yourself in the complaint to the pspla COMPLAINT DATED 23 JANUARY 2018
Your complaint in January was in my opinion totally malicious and vexatious yet I was supposed to travel to Wellington the following week so that you could have a go at me in person at a ” disciplinary ” hearing. presumably for the defamation claim you were setting me up for.
You have also alleged that you are preparing a defamation prosecution but refuse to say how I have defamed you or given an opportunity to make a correction .I stand by everything I say as truth and Honest opinion .
In short your actions with the PSPLA appears to me to have been for no other reason that to bully and intimidate me .
I have never met you but for the past 12 years you have been beavering away in the background to conceal serious government corruption . I suspect the link with Neil Wells was that you both advised on Policy and there appear secrets which need to be kept , Like protecting corruption rather than exposing it .
Last year I suspected that Neil Wells was the corrupt barrister who is mentioned in this decision for ripping off his client and then charging 7 grand to find the money he took , perhaps that unsettled you because you had gone all out to defend him and spent years with your former husband persecuting me, taking me to court for defamation when I was speaking the truth but by denying me the right to a fair trial and a defence you influenced the court and a most defamatory judgement of me emerged when the judge believed the spin the lies and misinformation Nick Wright put to the court.
The resulting Judgement has served you well and has been rolled out by you and your mates for 12 years to create a false impression that I am a nasty person, and you are the one who complains of defamation ! You have done everything you can they should not believe my allegations of corruption. It has worked so far but then you thought I would have given up by now , No I have not . with the spotlight currently on rape through the me too movement , corruption will be next this is like being abused for 12 years .
I suspect that in fearing that the tide was turning, you made a complaint against My Private Investigators licence , it was malicious vexatious and as a result I have given up my licence as it was obviously the draw card for your ongoing attacks by those I suspect that you have encouraged to make complaints against me. Free from the PSPLA I have eliminated that avenue for harassment .
You first approached me at 9.45 Pm on Friday 2nd june 2006 you rang my home number and told me to change the name of the legal trust which I was a trustee of or you would make certain I would lose My Private investigator licence , you followed this up with an email at 11 pm making similar threats .
You were working from your home as a law clerk at the time for Brookfields which your then Husband Nick Wright was a partner of .
You now falsely claim that you had a practicing certificate but the law society investigations Here and the decision here prove otherwise .
there is evidence that you lied to the PSPLA when you said “I was not working as a law clerk in 2006.I was a lawyer. I had been a lawyer for about ten years, since late 1996.” this reflects on your level of integrity
One has to wonder why Neil Wells a Barrister and Wyn Hoadley a barrister would instruct a resource management law clerk working from home on an alleged defamation matter and why she is now rewriting the past about her status as a law clerk. !
The trust which I was a trustee of was the Animal welfare institute of New Zealand now called the ANIMAL OWNERS SUPPORT TRUST, we had incorporated it to prove conclusively that no other legal entity existed by that name. The purpose of this was to support our suspicions that the Approved Organisation by the same name was a fraud. see here Lifting the lid on lobbying in politics ..When lobbyists are handed control
You and Nick Wright contorted that to be something quite sinister alleging that we were competitors trading on the name and seeking to deprive Wells of donations . You had the ability to twist facts then that skill you apparently have retained .
This post has been amended to remove the honest opinion of the writer at the time. . Documents in support as attached .submissions in response and emails coa
Vivienne Holm claims that “There was nothing unusually in my phone call or emails to Mrs Haden. In fact, forewarning people that you are about to take action against them unless is the ethical thing to do” Really! at 9.45 pm at night when this is what the law society reported in their finding 
So why not simply hang up when I answered or say sorry wrong number but you went on to intimidate and followed it up with threatening emails at 11 pm on Friday night! You used the names xxxxxxxxx and the email address karen161970@hotmail.com which I presume is your middle name and date of birth .
You never took any notice of the letter which the registrar sent you in reply to your complaint see here 
You may not be aware of the significance of this but when Neil Wells wrote the legislation for the animal welfare act he did so to facilitate his own business plan
AWINZ did not exist despite the fact that Neil Wells had talked about it since at least 1998 , Tom Didovich was working on this fraud with him and paid for the recruitment of trustees from council funds invoice-re-trustees see also this file
In his application for coercive law enforcement powers on behalf of AWINZ Neil Wells wrote on 22 november 1999
Now apparently, according to you , I am a person of limited intelligence so I am asking you as a Policy analyst what you think a “charitable trust has been formed by way of trust deed ” means ?
I think that it means that a trust exists, don’t you ? well it might surprise you that when Neil Wells made this application it was three months before the date of the trust deed he produced in 2006. The deed was “missing “until june 2006 when miraculously there were two ( but they were not the same )
Perhaps you can explain the legalities of a group of people applying for law enforcement powers through a trust which does not exist and does not have a deed,
How did the trustees pass a resolution to apply for law enforcement powers ?
how does the law of contracts apply in this instance what liability would there be for the individuals in running such an organisation .. NONE cause they were not involved
why did wells have to explain to these same trustees in 200 what being an approved organisation meant, surely they would have known they allegedly ran one for 6 years .. or did they ?
In correspondence to the minister Neil Wells wrote in 2000.
A person such as myself who according to your slanderous comment has ” limited intellectual capabilities” this means that
- there is a trust deed
- it has a clause 20 (a) see the trust deed he produced it only goes to 19 there is no 20 or 20 (a)
- there is only one copy( because if there had been two he could have sent a copy of the other one )
- It is not available because the original has been sent for registration .( he knowe that only copies were sent he lied )
The reality is that Neil Wells deliberately lied to the minister not one of those statements is true .
Wells knew how to incorporate a trust and there by become a body corporate ( for your information that is the process by which it becomes a legal person in its own right and has existence apart from the trustees ) Wells had incorporated two just months earlier ARK ANGEL TRUST BOARD and NATIONAL ANIMAL WELFARE TRUST BOARD
He knew that only copies of the deed were sent and in 2006 we had not only one trust deed we had two.. but wait for it they were different version 1 and version 2
Version 2 was sent to MAF , the front page and the signature pages are original and the middle pages have been switched out.. Do policy analysts care about that, is that acceptable ? do you condone that ? are you fit to be a policy analyst ?Are you safe in a public role ?
All these things have been pointed out to you and Nick Wright over the years but you and him continued your vexatious attacks on me.
Have you not read section 4 of the lawyers and conveyancers act .. your duty is to the rule of law you were an officer of the court , but you have stayed out of things so that it would not reflect on your practicing certificate you are cunning .
You prepared the statement of claim and Nick Wright your ex husband another resource management lawyer took the matter to court the intention was to get me to shut up and to change the name of our trust so that Neil Wells could cover up, it did not work I wont be bullied
In my book that is using the law for an improper purpose . The law society did not deal with you because it all happened in 2006 when the old legal practitioner legislation was still in place see the decision here Vivienne Holm Decision
It obviously became too much for Nick when he became a committed patient but despite this he continued to practice law until june 2011 when he was still acting past that date despite not having a practicing certificate 
Nick has now left law , I was particularly taken with the poem he read on his face book page about the wheels of sharp weapons returning.. so true
Getting back to you and your complaint I fully addressed this with the private security Licensing authority , But no matter what I said the matter was set down for a ” disciplinary hearing ” even before you had served papers on me MY response is here
When ever you submit more information you introduce more misinformation and childish action as can be seen in your Vivienne Holm submissions in reply
On the one hand you are complaining that I was inaccurate, for the first time since 2011 you allege that there is an issue, then when I correct it for you, you scream to the PSPLA .. “she has changed it she is disobeying the pspla.”
For the record the PSPLA had no authority over me and my blogs they are not part of my private investigators business, In reality there is no difference to the situation with Wyn Hoadley see the decision re her Hoadley decision and her response Hoadley response
I have no legal obligation to the PSPLA with regards to my actions for companies which were not under my PI licence .
You are right not to respond to my submissions, to do so would cause you to put your foot in it further .
If you think I am defaming you tell me how and where , too may of the complaints to the PSPLA are too similar you have been there all along ensuring that I am never out of court. How childish can you get for the allegations about me speaking to your kids They came to the door in 2006 I asked for their mother.. you even managed to make that sound like the crime of the century .
Not long after I had an anonymous complaint to the PPLA from Suzie Dawson who coincidentally claimed I had used those same frightful words when her daughter answered the phone .. Have I been set up or what Suzie Dawson a blast from the past may she fare well in Russia
I will not give up until You are convicted as a lawyer your obligation was to the rule of law you have been a lawyer off an on since since 1996 you cannot plead ignorance and I have every reason to believe that you have coordinated the attacks on me to discredit me
It all started with the Statement of claim which you and your then husband Nick Wright filed for the fictional AWINZ
The very first paragraph to the court is a lie and the lies just get better as they go along, there was no need to prove any of this Nick just stood there and lied i was denied a defence and that is called JUSTICE !
You did not check to see if AWINZ existed You had evidence that we had legitimate trust had body corporate status but you gave the fictional AWINZ life by calling it AWINZ 2000, in terms of corruption you take the cake
Neil Wells conspired with MAF to ensure that information was withheld until after the court proceedings were concluded, he was then advised that the information was being released this vital evidence included the audit report which proved that AWNZ was a sham .
This was later confirmed by Neil Wells to the law society with this letter 
What is missing is that the application for approved status under the legislation which Wells had written and advised on , was made by AWINZ on 22 November 1999. so how could trustees who have not formed a trust make such an application ?
Quite clearly that application was not made by these trustees only Wells signature was on the application . AWINZ was treated by MAF and crown law to be a legal entity in its own right . as you can see the signatory of this crown law opinion is none other than the solicitor for MPI Peter Mc Carthy
the trust deed which first saw daylight in 2006 after being reported missing at an alleged meeting on 10 May states that the trustees required to be reappointed after three years
the alleged trustees of this 2000 trust did not hold assets ,, no bank account existed until 2005 and no meeting had occured since it inception despite requiring to have four meetings per year . Perhaps you can tell me how this fits in with a legitimate trust ?
Wyn Hoadley in her response to the law society Hoadley response states ” I had been approached several years prior to this by Mr Neil Wells regarding my possible involvement with AWINZ.” this again proves that AWINZ was nothing more than Neil Wells , how can one person make such decisions without the other trustees in a properly run trust ?
Wyn Hoadley goes on to say 
So this woman who is supposedly a Barrister seeks legal advice from a resource management law clerk working from HOME ! Yes they did expect it to be resolved quickly because the tool of resolution was intimidation your specialty
Wyn Hoadley also falsely claims that AWINZ resolved to seek professional legal advice .. so where is the resolution it is not in the minutes!
Wyn was also not appointed by any legal method she was appointed??? under a section which does not appear in the trust deed and at a time the deed was missing.. so what was she binding herself into ???? would you become a trustee of a trust when you don’t know what the terms are ???? it simply defies belief. These people are lawyers !!!!!! or should I say Liars
By writing this open letter I will give you the opportunity to address the malicious attack on me which you state in paragraphs 22 and 23 of your complaint , ie to take away any credibility my PI licence could give.
The good news is that a PI licence doesn’t give any credibility , take Translegal and its director Gary Swan for example they have a PI licence yet swear affidavits of service for fictional document services , that is something which is apparently condoned .see this and these Translegal document server jailed . Translegal services NZ ltd contracts criminals to serve documents.
Nor does my PI licence give me any powers, the ability to find addresses,attention to detail and ability to find information is a skill I have, a skill which apparently you lack despite you claiming that I have ” limited Intellectual capabilities ” the skill you have is in my opinion in being a corrupt former lawyer specialising in intimidation and discrediting people to win at any cost.
I will be happy to publish any comment you wish to make By not replying within 5 days you are confirming to the accuracy of this post
Historical references https://bsa.govt.nz/decisions/3122-parre-and-canwest-radioworks-ltd-2005-016
Additional information added 2019 .
a decision from the Ontario Supreme court has been forwarded to us ONTARIO SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS it highlights the issues of private law enforcement agencies having equivalent powers of the police with regards to search and seizure.
AWINZ was such an organisation except it went one step better, it was totally unidentifiable, there was no legal person openly associated with it so that it could not be sued. As such there was no accountability to the public , read the news items
Court strikes down policing powers of Ontario animal-protection officers
Ontario judge strikes down enforcement powers of OSPCA as unconstitutional
Judge strikes down enforcement powers of OSPCA as unconstitutional
Judge finds OSPCA enforcement powers to be unconstitutional
OSPCA police powers ruled unconstitutional
Province given a year to revamp OSPCA powers
Ontario SPCA’s Police Powers Are Unconstitutional, Judge Rules
New Zealand , how we facilitate sham trusts
This post is prompted by the Editorial: NZ needs to assure world of trust scrutiny.
It is one which I will forward along with other blogs to international agencies who may wish to question how one of the worlds least corrupt countries can make this claim and I wish to reveal how trusts work in New Zealand
In 2006 I questioned the lack of existence of trust , this trust just happened to be one of two private law enforcement agencies, this trust the animal welfare institute of New Zealand (AWINZ ) taught me all you need to know about NZ trusts and how loosely they operate
AWINZ operated as an equivalent to the RNZSPCA and enforced animal welfare law , It had powers of search and the ability to seize some ones prized pet .
I was asked the simple question , who is AWINZ ? when I discovered that it was nothing but a sham and questioned the existence of a sham trust being a law enforcement authority I was immediately sued, denied a defence and was told to pay some $100,000 dollars to the person who wrote the animal welfare bill and was independent adviser to the select committee in the process of making his business plan , law .
He then made an application , which in my days as a police officer would have been considered fraud . ( this is due to the fact that the claim that AWINZ was a trust was totally false the application made 22 November 1999 predated he formation of any organisation by that name the earliest trust deed and one which Mr Wells relies upon was dated 1.3.2000 and even those persons never met or passed a resolution )
I have for years been beaten up for blowing this whistle. Below I have a list of links of how I have beaten my head against a brick wall for many years but for now I will reveal how New Zealand trusts work
- You need a trust deed .. it doesn’t matter when you sign it or who signs it as long as there is a deed a bit of paper which looks convincing.
- you can have various copies of the deed they can all conflict and no one cares see here and here
- no one enforces the deed, no one cares if the so called trust complies with its deed
- If you want a new deed you simply write a new one and refer to an earlier deed which may or may not have existed , Ird does not care I rather suspect that most people at IRD are number crunchers and done understand the legalities of dates names and real persons being involved in a trust .
- there is more information on the deed with regards to the identity of the witnesses than with regards to the the trustees. you can use generic names and who could ever identify the trustees
- if a trust does not meet or hold any assets or pass any resolutions it is still considered a trust and its identity can be used to interchange with any other trust ( real or fictional )
- the charities commission are happy to grant charity status to anything whihc meets their criteria , the fact that there are no resolutions for the trust and big gaping holes in their existence is but a technicality
Let me explain in terms of the AWINZ trust
As stated earlier Neil Wells a barrister at the time made an application for law enforcement powers for AWINZ he claimed on 22 November 1999 that a trust had been formed
No executed trust deed existed and these people had not formally met together or passed any resolution
Maf and The dog control section of Waitakere council had signed agreements with the representative of AWINZ:- Neil Wells
in 2006 Neither MAF nor Waitakere city council had a trust deed or had seen one : basically no one had checked the existence of AWINZ
when I proved that AWINZ did not exist ( charitable trusts need to be registered ) a trust deed materialized dated 1.3.2000 whihc brings about the question how can you make an application before a trust is formed. ?
I was to get evidence that these people had never met never held any assets , never passed a resolution.
By the terms of the deed the trust ceased to exist three years after it was formed, continuance depended on reappointment of trustees and since they never met no one was reappointed.
Wells sought charitable status in 2006 when new legislation came in. IRD rejected the trust deed so he simply wrote a new one and they claimed to be a continuation of the bogus 2000 trust 
this was totally acceptable to the lawyers charity commission and MAF ( and later the government )
AWINZ was finally removed as approved Organisation in 2010 . the fictional law enforcemnt organisation operated for 10 years re branding council property and using the Council staff under Neil Wells control as AWINZ officers .

Neil wells still consults for government and makes submissions strange that he does not refer to the 10 years where he was the only person involved with AWINZ
this is how what I considered to be a fraud worked

I have brought it to the attention of the prime minister , Transparency International NZ , Auckland Council and again here , here , here, again here , here, here , here ,Auckland Mayor, the CEO of council , council lawyers and again here and here , here, here.
I have written to the lawyers involved and again here and here, here, here , the law society by way of regarding the lawyers , the charities commission and again here and here
Maf and now the ministry of primary Industries repeatedly fobbed me off and actively concealed the fraud, after all they never checked to see if the trust existed before supporting the application for law enforcement status , I was later to find that the current lawyer for Maf was involved int he process earlier on when he was working for crown law so I guess his own work came under scrutiny therefore concealment of the fraud was an act of self defence complaints to Maf Here , here, here , here, here,here, here, here and here
The people posing as trustees here, and here,here, here
attorney general here
I had questions asked in parliament Here wrote to ministers here and here
notable blogs of the past touching on the corruption which exist in New Zealand
NZ one of world’s least corrupt countries- its done with bogus trusts
Disparity in crime.. who you know matters
Approved and acceptable standards for document service in New Zealand
Questioning corruption in New Zealand.
Corruption in New Zealand – lack of support for whistleblowers
The perfect fraud – Public money for private gain
Liquidation as a tool of oppression
shooting the messenger
Why I am calling for an independent commission against corruption
Conclusion : Fraudulent trusts are condoned in New Zealand , I was silenced because I was exposing how slack our trust administration was .
more to come Court is used to silence exposure of abuse of overseas trusts
Trusts the greatest vehicle for fraud
We have long believed that Trusts are the greatest vehicle for fraud and I do not believe that I am wrong.
A member received this flyer in an email recently it was from
The web site is owned by a former law firm .
we reported on the same email last year when it had not been titivated by graphic artists, I guess the enhancement means that business is doing well .
These trusts are set up using New Zealand’s very unsafe company registration laws and internationally this has ensured that New Zealand registers companies are abused by foreigners.
The this trust company trust web site is owned by the former law firm see this Whois Search _ .nz Domain Name Commission
Offshore Director(s) – provided from your side – Offshore Shareholder(s) – provided from your side and apparently you dont even need to know them .
One such director was Mr Erik Vanagels this is apparently how it works

Vanagels was a director of many of the companies associated with equity law and Equity trust ( well over 2000) . The offices of Equity law are the address for registration of the companies here in New Zealand .
By way of illustration one such company BERGSTONE LIMITED is shown on the companies register as having its registered office at Level 4, 44 Khyber Pass Road, Grafton,
the director is Erik VANAGELS Buzon 1987, Zone 9a, Carrasquilla & Via Espana, Panama City, Panama , ( hang on wasn’t Vanangles latvian ?? ) the address used cant be located on google but I did find this EURIMEX CORP. – Business Located in New York no doubt there will be more but I know this all done by smoke screens and mirrors . Bizapaedia claims ” There are 3 companies that have an address matching Buzon 1987 Zone 9a Carrasquilla & Via Espana Panama City, Panama 00000. The companies are Continenta Corp, Finmarket Corp, and Centroform Inc.”
The above flyer sent out by Equity trust International states that they set up companies in Panama
Any way BERGSTONE LIMITED ‘s director signed a very suspicious looking consent consent Bergstone.
the shareholder of the company is UNIHOLD LIMITED Level 4, 44 Khyber Pass Road, Grafton, Auckland, 1150 , New Zealand director since 10 Aug 2011 Manti EFFROSYNI 11 Stavrou Stylianidi Street, Flat 3, Level 2, Nicosia, 2024 , Cyprus , prior to that Humberto Gregorio BARRERA MOJICA ,Ed Villas De Bonanza, Tower D, Apt. 3c, Panama City , Panama and before that Erik VANAGELS
UNIHOLD’S share holder is GENHOLD LIMITED Level 4, 44 Khyber Pass Road, Grafton, Auckland, 1150 , New Zealand
GENHOLD LIMITED has as its director Fernando Enrique MONTERO DE GRACIA,Calle Primera, Panama Viejo, House 496, Panama City, Republic Of Panama , the share holder is TRUST (NZ) HOLDINGS LIMITED Level 4, 44 Khyber Pass Road, Grafton, Auckland, 1023 , New Zealand
TRUST (NZ) HOLDINGS LIMITED has one director and shareholder alady whi is the wife of who is the wife of the former lawyer
Google Eric Vanagles for more details which include links such as
Erik Vanagels™ – the extent of a money laundering supermarket
Boozy Latvian ‘billionaire’ is smokescreen for fraud
Fraud trail leads to OAP’s tiny flat
Massive Ukrainian government money-laundering system surfaces
together with Latvian colleagues such as Juri Vitman, Elmar Zallapa and Inta Bilder – preside over a sprawling network of companies with Baltic bank accounts that have extensive dealings with the Ukrainian state, covering everything from arms exports to machinery imports.
Behind the Proxies
Erik Vanagels offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/21975
Suspicious activity report. How does the global money laundering machine work?
During the same year, another company from New Zealand, Dominus Limited, also transferred about $6 million to Nomirex. These transactions by three seemingly different companies from New Zealand and Panama all have one thing in common: they all have the same directors and owners – Latvian citizens Sten Gorin and Erik Vanagels, who became known as part of controversies involving weapons sales and the supply of swine flu vaccines to Ukraine.
The Threat of Russian Criminal Money: – Global Initiative
Homeless Vanagels, partner of Ukrainian Naftogaz – YouTube
New Zealand: the Shell Company Incorporation Franchises (II)
Erik Vanagels | Craig Shaw
For more on this kind of activity try these links
New Zealand: The Shell Company Incorporation Franchises: Round-Up
While New Zealand’s Company Law Reform Stalls, GT Group Helps a Thieving Ukrainian Despot
New Zealand: the Shell Company Incorporation Franchises (I)
New Zealand: the Shell Company Incorporation Franchises (II) (and Ukraine)
New Zealand: the Shell Company Incorporation Franchises (III)
The court is being used to silence us we have therefore to removed the names of the parties involved as it appears that they consider factual information and truth to be harmful to them , While we have the right to speak up it also means that you have to enure months of court proceedings.
We see this as harassment
The Lawyer acting as the instructing solictor is also a director of the trust company involved , the trust operates from Auckland he lives in Alexandra
– will keep you posted .
From: Grace Haden
Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 3:17 p.m.
To: ‘greg@stewartlaw.co.nz’
Subject: Proceedings
Good afternoon Greg
I have been served with two very large bundles of documents and a claim for a ridiculous sum by xxx.
Strangely enough these came right after the LCRO advised that they were going to be dealing with the matters between us on the papers.
These proceedings are the first that I have known that your client was unhappy with the posts on the web sites
He has been made aware of the posts in the past and he has been invited to suggest changes .
Could You please indicate what changes your client wishes to have made I have amended the anticorruption pages but presently cant log into Transparency to edit it.
If you get him to produce evidence as to why statements made are incorrect and tell me what needs changing I will gladly do so .
The file is not very comprehensible and also lacks affidavits .
Also a friend has been named she is not associated in any way and I wonder why she has been brought into it
I am aware that your client has known about these posts substantially longer than 5 days ago but despite that am happy to make the changes in accordance with section 25 of the defamation act.
I look forward to your prompt response so that this matter can be put right.
Regards
Grace Haden
Phone (09) 520 1815
mobile 027 286 8239
visit us at www.transparency.net.n
Companies currently registered at 4/44 Khyber pass
4-WAY LOGISTICS LIMITED (3589351) Registered NZ Company
The former director was the receptionist at equity law when she became uncomfortable and saw what was going on the directorship was transfered to Leah TOURELEO, B.p. 1487, 1 Port Vila, Pot 540208, Port Vila , Vanuatu the shareholder is TRUST (NZ) HOLDINGS LIMITED
ARGOSTAR LIMITED (2038680) Registered NZ Company director Anastasia KOUMIDOU Persefonis 8, Flat 301, Aglandjia, Nicosia, 2102 , Cyprus shareholder NORDWELL MANAGEMENT LIMITED whose director Steven James GREEN is a co director of EQUITY TRUST INTERNATIONAL LIMITED,shareholder of Nordwell is BRIDGEPOINT AG Ajeltake Road, Ajeltake Island, Majuro, MH96960 , Marshall Islands – I have been unable to verify the existence of Bridgepoint AG but it apparently has a human signature .. whose I wonder ?
BERGSTONE LIMITED (1871327) Registered NZ Company as mentioned above Director Erik VANAGELS
BEXLEY RISK ADVISORS LIMITED (1875420) Registered NZ Company- Director Manti EFFROSYNI shareholder NORDWELL MANAGEMENT LIMITED whose director Steven James GREEN is a co director of EQUITY TRUST INTERNATIONAL LIMITED,shareholder of Nordwell is BRIDGEPOINT AG Ajeltake Road, Ajeltake Island, Majuro, MH96960 , Marshall Islands – I have been unable to verify the existence of Bridgepoint AG but it apparently has a human signature .. whose I wonder ?
BLACKWILL TRADE LIMITED (3330391) Registered NZ Company director Uatay KABLAN,189 Muratbayeva Street, Apt 18, Almaty , Kazakhstan, shareholder NORDWELL MANAGEMENT LIMITED whose director Steven James GREEN is a co director of EQUITY TRUST INTERNATIONAL LIMITED,shareholder of Nordwell is BRIDGEPOINT AG Ajeltake Road, Ajeltake Island, Majuro, MH96960 , Marshall Islands a company which cannot be located but has a very real looking signature so it must be real.
BORGCAMP LIMITED (2175747) Registered NZ Company director Manti EFFROSYNI share holder Nordwell as above
CARGOTEX LIMITED (2084625) Registered NZ Company Inta BILDER shareholder Maxhold as above in BENTLEX LIMITED
CARGOTRADE LIMITED (3330373) Registered NZ Company director Petr ZIKA this time with shareholder shareholder Nordwell through Mr Green to the unlocatable BRIDGEPOINT AG Ajeltake Road, Ajeltake Island, Majuro, MH96960 , Marshall Islands
CASS ESTATE LIMITED (2362248) Registered NZ Company Manti EFFROSYNI and the Nordwell progression as above
CLOVER MANAGEMENT LIMITED (2102957) Registered NZ Company Yippy a new name Iosif FRANGOS 57 Spyrou Kyprianou, M Frangos Court 501, 6051 Larnaca, Cyprus who is also the shareholder how unique
More on an attachment coming soon the whole lot will be sent off to the MED for their input.
I am grossly concerned that an alleged company in the Marshall islands can be a shareholder based on an anonymous signature .. more on this later .
Open letter to Mr Key – will you condone corruption?
Open letter to Prime Minister.
I refer to the cabinet manual 2.53
“In all these roles and at all times, Ministers are expected to act lawfully and to behave in a way that upholds, and is seen to uphold, the highest ethical standards.
Ultimately, Ministers are accountable to the Prime Minister for their behaviour.”
In 2001 the then minister of Agriculture, Jim Sutton gave approval for the Animal Welfare Institute of New Zealand to become an approved organisation under the animal welfare act 1999.
Section 122 of the act requires that the minister must be satisfied “by the production to the Minister of suitable evidence” that the “organisation “complied with the criteria as set out in sections 122 (1) (a) – (e).
It has transpired that the Animal Welfare Institute of New Zealand (AWINZ) had no legal existence, It had no members, structure or existence beyond that of only one man. There was no Organisation, no body of persons had held a meeting or made a decision to make an application for the coercive law enforcement powers.
I have over the years made a number of OIA requests from the MPI and have conclusively established that.
1. The application for approved status for the Animal Welfare Institute of New Zealand was fraudulent
a. Mr Neil Wells made the application on behalf of an alleged trust knowing that no trust existed .
b. The statement with regards to the trust having been formed by way of trust deed was false and known to be false by Mr Wells a statement he was to attempt to retrospectively cover up in 2006.
c. The persons named as the alleged trustees had never formally met together as a trust, signed a trust deed, or discussed the application for approved status under the provisions of the Animal Welfare Act 1999.
d. Section 10 of the application, the institute’s compliance with section 122, sought to mislead and deceive the minister as an organisation which does not exist cannot comply with the criteria.
2. The minister relied on MAF advising him with regards to the trust deed, the reality was that there was no trust deed and no signed deed was ever considered or sighted. This ensured that the ministry staff evaluated the application on a worthless and meaningless document which had not been consented or agreed to by any persons.
3. Mr Neil Edward Wells who had appointed himself as Manager (10.4 of the application) was the former Head of the RNZSPCA, in 1996 he wrote a business plan for his own personal ambition to integrate council’s dog and stock control with Animal welfare which was a central government concern. He called the service Territorial animal welfare service .
4. Mr Wells was well connected with the MPI (MAF at the time) and through this and his party connections (Labour) came to write the No 1 Bill for the new animal welfare legislation this bill was written with his personal business aspirations in mind.
5. Mr Wells served as an Independent Specialist Adviser to the Primary Production Select Committee during the consideration stages of the Bills but no record has ever been located of any declaration of his conflict of interest.
6. During 2000 Mr Wells and his associate Tom Didovich provided the minister and the ministry with information which appeared to be legitimate, however neither the minister not the ministry verified
a. The legal status or existence of AWINZ
b. The consent and knowledge of Waitakere council in providing funding, staff resources and infrastructure for the venture.
c. The knowledge and consent for the alleged trustees named on the fraudulent application
7. Records show that the policy advisors for the ministry of Agriculture were opposed to the granting of the application despite having previously assisted Mr Wells. MAF officials had voiced their concerns with regards to Mr Wells’s undeclared conflict of interest.
8. Consent was finally given after the application went to the labour caucus after Neil Wells was able to comment on and amend the caucus papers and allegedly briefed his former work colleague, Bob Harvey who at the time was the president of the labour party and Mayor of Waitakere City Council.
9. In 2006 as a result of an enquiry from a Waitakere dog control officer I established conclusively that
a. There was no legal person by the name of the Animal Welfare institute of New Zealand
b. Neither MAF nor Waitakere council who both contracted to AWINZ held a signed trust deed.
c. The law enforcement authority AWINZ was not identifiable.
10. Despite AWINZ not existing the then Minister of Agriculture Jim Anderton did not consider that AWINZ no longer complied with section 122 and did not revoke the approved status, he too was deceived as to the existence of AWINZ due to a group of persons posing as AWINZ and despite lacking evidence claiming to be the law enforcement authority . These persons were Tom Didovich, Neil Wells, Graeme Coutts and Wyn Hoadley. Not one of these persons (other than Wells) had been a party to the application process or consented to it.
11. This deception continued through the next minister’s term off office and David Carter was similarly deceived.
12. In a series Official information act requests I have established that MPI do not know who the legal persons were who represented the law enforcement authority and it would appear from the latest response ,that they did nothing to investigate the consequences of having a fictional law enforcement authority .
I have recently discovered submissions by Mr Wells for the Animal Welfare Amendment Act , curiously he does not mention his involvement with AWINZ at all but in these he points out the seriousness of this situation by pointing out that New Zealand is only one of two countries to have a private law enforcement authority (the other is Australia).
Mr Wells in his submissions states “Legal commentators maintain that the enforcement and prosecution of criminal law (animal welfare offences are crimes) are the responsibility of the state and not private organisations that have no public accountability.”
He goes on to state “There are (in NZ) three types of enforcement and prosecuting authorities — the Police, the Ministry for Primary Industry, and approved organisations. “
And “MPI does not have the resources to be able to deliver national enforcement and prosecution services on its own for all animal welfare complaints and is totally dependent on approved organisations. This creates an enormous risk for government.”
AWINZ was an approved organisation yet it did not exist, no one knew who comprised it, ran it, apart from Mr Wells who was not given law enforcement powers in his own name but obtained it fraudulently in a fictional name and then acted on behalf of that fictional body.
The act, section 122, requires that the Minister must be satisfied – by the production to the Minister of suitable evidence – before declaring an organisation to be an approved organisation for the purposes of the Act.
For the decision of several Ministers to have been lawful evidence must exist which shows
1. Who the legal persons were who applied for the law enforcement powers and
2. The legal basis upon which the ministers granted law enforcement powers to a trading name for person or persons unknown and had belief that there was accountability to the public.
If that evidence does not exist then there is another option and that is that successive ministers were deceived.
If this is the case the government has two options
1. To condone fraudulent applications to the crown for law enforcement authority or
2. Instigate a full ministerial enquiry into the matter and hold all those who played a part in the deception accountable to the full force of the law.
The current Minister, Nathan Guy appears to have distanced himself from this matter despite repeated requests for him to conduct a ministerial enquiry into this deception. Every request I write to him is routinely handed over to the MPI. The MPI do not hold the evidence and quite clearly under the act it is for the minister to be in possession of the suitable evidence which satisfies him, it is therefore clear that if there is any evidence as to the legitimacy of the application of AWINZ and the existence of AWINZ then it must be held by the minister.
If the minister does not hold that information then the minister cannot condone a fraudulent act of this magnitude. It is also not a responsible action just to ignore the issue. (Ignorance of the law is no excuse Crimes act 1961)
Fraud is a crime and obtaining law enforcement powers for one of only two approved organisations is serious, it is even more serious when the law was enforced through this fraud and I have evidence that it was.
I did not intend to be a Whistle blower, I simply raised issues which I believed were in the public interest to raise in what was reported to be the world’s least corrupt country. I asked
1. Why did the minister give law enforcement powers to a fictional organisation
2. Why was the manager of a council dog and stock control unit contracting to himself in a fictional name
Those two questions have devastated my life and that of my family, I have had a total cold shoulder from the government for 8 years now. I have been treated like the villain in a tactic which I now recognise as classic Darvo where the roles of villain and victim are reversed.
I have been persecuted thought the courts on defamation claims for which I was denied a defence of truth and honest opinion, skipped formal proof and went straight to sentencing.
My crime has been to speak the truth and speak up on a matter of serious public corruption, it has been 8 years I have had every bit of spin and every bit of avoidance, it is painfully obvious that no one knows who the law enforcement authority was and there was no accountability to the public.
I should not be the scape goat. If New Zealand wished to strive to be the least corrupt country in the world then it would instigate a full investigation into this matter and see that whistle blowers are compensated as intended by the United Nations convention against corruption.
While New Zealand is still covering up corruption it will never be able to ratify the convention. We cannot continue to pretend that there is no corruption the only way to deal with it is to meet it head on.
I therefore ask for you Mr Key to direct that the minister for MPI conduct a full investigation into this matter together with lawyers versed in criminal law and Trusts.
I am happy to assist I am a former Police Prosecuting Sergeant and am currently a licenced Private investigator, the matter is already well investigated and researched.
Additionally I request financial assistance to relieve the financial hardship which I am experiencing due to having blown the whistle. I would not be in the position that I find myself in today if the government had acted responsibly and relied on evidence rather than hearsay.
I will soon be attending an international anti-corruption conference and hope that I can report that NZ is taking corruption seriously. I will also send a copy of this to the United Nations for their reference and also publish this on www.transparency.net.nz
I see this as a true test of the ethics of our current government.
A government for businesses.
In the famous Gettysburg address Abraham Lincoln stated
“government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”
Well he was wrong , the year was 1863 and New Zealand was still in its infancy and no one would have thought that this would be the country where democracy would become a farce.
We vote for the members, in a competition where by money rules , those supported through secret trusts and large businesses have the biggest adverting budget and we all know how effective advertising is
Once into office the debt to the sponsors needs to be re paid . There are several ways of doing this so as to make it look like it is an open an transparent process
One way is through the New Zealand Business and Parliament Trust.
This is a charitable trust which was set up in 1991 by PATRICK LEDGER GOODMAN and DRYDEN THOMAS SPRING “To advance and encourage business understanding of Parliament and parliamentarians’ understanding of the business community of New Zealand’
( a quick look at their backgrounds shows that they are very well connected
GOODMAN one of the wealthiest families in New Zealand and Australia, with an estimated worth of $A770 million see also Goodman dynasty cooks up recipe for success
SPRING held a number of directorships including Nufarm Ltd., Maersk NZ Ltd., Affco Ltd., Fletcher Building Ltd., Sky City Entertainment Group Ltd., Northport Ltd., Deputy Chairman of Goodman Fielder Ltd., Chairman of Ericcson NZ Ltd. Chairman Of Tenon Ltd., Deputy Chairman Of Ports Of Auckland Ltd., Deputy Chairman of The Rural Banking and Finance Corp of New Zealand. He was formerly a member of The APEC Eminent Persons Group, which in 1993 drafted the APEC Vision of Free and Open Trade in the Asia Pacific, a member of APEC Business Advisory Council, Chairman of Asia New Zealand Foundation,
the members are listed here
Each business has an MP assigned to them ( called associate members ) they are listed here some companies e.g. Fonterra has several MPs .
So while we the mere mortals who believe we live in a democratic society have difficulty in accessing our MPS this is not so for big business.
There does not appear to be any legislation which supports MPs membership to this trust and I have done an OIA to clarify this .
I have also asked if we can set up an organization along the same lines which educates MPs with regards to corruption
until we get an independent commission agaisnt corruption we will have
Government of our businesses by those who have been sponsored by businesses to support businesses.
I also have to wonder why David Cunliffe was the only one to disclose his role in the New Zealand Business and Parliament Trust.
Steve Hart’s interview of Suzanne Snively
Recently Steve Hart Interviewed Suzanne Snively on his show , which we believe require clarification we may have to spread the load over several posts as we do not wish to go into overload.
the Interview can be listened to here we will respond in order starting with the elevator speech
The elevator speech
Suzanne’s Elevator speech was far more in line with her own objectives than that of the objectives formally adopted by the incorporated society , her response proves that she has no idea what the objectives of the society are shown at point 4 on the latest rules
The registered objectives are principally “to promote transparency, good governance and ethical practices in all sectors of society in New Zealand”
There is nothing in the rules which says anything about focusing on building stronger integrity systems or praising a society for being “already trusting “by deliberately ignoring corruption which is occurring.
I really have to wonder where the assumption of the already trusting society comes from Susan Snively is an economist and I have learned that assumptions are a very good starting point for economists.
“A physicist, a chemist, and an economist are stranded on a desert island. One can only imagine what sort of play date went awry to land them there. Anyway, they’re hungry. Like, desert island hungry. And then a can of soup washes ashore, Campbells Chicken Noodle, let’s say. Which is perfect, because the physicist can’t have much salt, and the chemist doesn’t eat red meat.
But, famished as they are, our three professionals have no way to open the can. So they put their brains to the problem. The physicist says “We could drop it from the top of that tree over there until it breaks open.” And the chemist says “We could build a fire and sit the can in the flames until it bursts open.”
Those two squabble a bit, until the economist says “No, no, no. Come on, guys, you’d lose most of the soup. Let’s just assume a can opener.”
While on the subject of assumptions it has become apparent to me that Suzanne Snively may not be familiar with the legislation which governs the incorporated society , as will be noted later in the interview she said that she was unsure of the structure of Transparency International and thought that it was a company.
The overriding feeling of the interview was that Suzanne wanted to recruit more members so as to increase revenue but Incorporated societies do not exist for pecuniary gain.
Membership
Suzanne claims that there are about 100 members , if you look at the web site you will see that the vast majority of the members are connected with either the large audit companies who contract to the office of the auditor general or are Government departments or past employees of these departments.
The perception which can be gained from the membership list is that the vast majority of the members have a vested interest in keeping the lid on corruption In New Zealand. This becomes obvious when you visit the partners/ sponsors page
There is one golden rule which pertains to impartiality and that is you cannot be impartial if you comprised of and paid for by the people whose integrity you are judging.
This in itself means that there is a lack of integrity.
Any good economist will tell you that if you get your wages paid by a group of people and or organisations that they will no doubt employ you again in the future if you do a favourable job.
So in this instance TINZ did an integrity study on 13 pillars this is who worked on them and how they were funded, note that I have paired up the funders to the pillar which they would most naturally be associated with . The researchers are as mentioned in the integrity report . You can see who funded and researched the various pillars here Who funded and worked on the various pillars
A mathematician, an accountant and an economist apply for the same job.
The interviewer calls in the mathematician and asks “What do two plus two equal?” The mathematician replies “Four.” The interviewer asks “Four, exactly?” The mathematician looks at the interviewer incredulously and says “Yes, four, exactly.”
Then the interviewer calls in the accountant and asks the same question “What do two plus two equal?” The accountant says “On average, four – give or take ten percent, but on average, four.”
Then the interviewer calls in the economist and poses the same question “What do two plus two equal?” The economist gets up, locks the door, closes the shade, sits down next to the interviewer and says “What do you want it to equal?”
Suzanne’s perception of the TINZ chapter
- only 5% of the population knows it exists.
My comment: Yes but they sure get the false message out that there is no corruption in New Zealand
- The group that was initially involved was focused on building a chapter but not necessarily on how to get the message out to the wider community
My comment: They were and still are Government servants dressed up as a watchdog to tell the country how well they are concealing corruption.
- I knew nothing about TI until I became a director
My comment: I am so impressed that Susan Has learnt so much about corruption in New Zealand in three short years especially since she has never examined corruption and does not wish to know it is there, In typical Economist style she has carefully studied everything except the reality
Three economists went out hunting, and came across a large deer. The first economists fired, but missed, by a meter to the left. The second economists fired, but also missed, by a meter to the right. The third economists didn’t fire, but shouted in triumph, “We got it! We got it!”
- At about the same time a colleague became executive chairman of the Cambodian branch he got funding and got over a million dollars.
My comment: My own suspicion is that Susan saw the possibility of becoming the CEO and getting funding to pay her wages , I have sen this tactic used in many incorporated societies, most of the members dont care a toss and leave one person to run the joint and let them find a way to get their own wages . Incorporated societies are not supposed to work that way but when you can be part of an organization which protects you from scrutiny in your day job then its a great trade of for some.
- we do have some govt members at the moment they became members to support the work of the TI integrity systems assessment
My comment: there is no integrity in getting people to fund the independent research which affects them , its like paying for advertising and a lot more efficient when a government department e.g. the office of the auditor general can pay some one to show how effective they are being. That is far more economic than actually doing a good job
Q:Why did God create economists ?
A:In order to make weather forecasters look good
- very few people are aware of how well we score internationally and that international perceptions of our lack of corruption are not as widely understood across NZ as it could be , if it is true that we can be proud of as because it makes a difference to us as a trading nation in terms of how we trade and do business
My comment:it is all about boosting business not about the reality
Experienced economist and not so experienced economist are walking down the road. They get across shit lying on the asphalt.
Experienced economist: “If you eat it I’ll give you $20,000!”
Not so experienced economist runs his optimization problem and figures out he’s better off eating it so he does and collects money.
Continuing along the same road they almost step into yet another shit.
Not so experienced economist: “Now, if YOU eat this shit I’ll give YOU $20,000.”
After evaluating the proposal experienced economist eats shit getting the money.
They go on. Not so experienced economist starts thinking: “Listen, we both have the same amount of money we had before, but we both ate shit. I don’t see us being better off.”
Experienced economist: “Well, that’s true, but you overlooked the fact that we’ve been just involved in $40,000 of trade.”
- the international perception is that we have the least or amongst the least corrupt public sector in the world
My comment: Yes that perception is kept alive by the members of transparency International New Zealand who are those very same govt departments and also fund the work to make themselves look great.
- It means that you can get up in the morning and go about your business without paying a backhander without paying facilitation or a bribe.
My comment: I agree there are very few bribes or backhanders in New Zealand but on the other hand every one has some dirt on every one else and although the monitary transactions dont come into it , there are often winks and nods involved… same thing- corruption
- we focus on systemic issues around corruption to ensure that there are systems in place that deal with corruption
My comment: but TINZ deal with the hypothetical only and refuse to look at the corruption which is occurring to learn from it to see how it occurs. You cannot combat something which you dont understand.
Q: What is a recent economics graduate’s usual question in his first job?
A: What would you like to have with your french fries sir?
to be continued …..
If all economists were laid end to end they would not reach a conclusion.
– George Bernard Shaw
Steve Hart’s interview of Suzanne Snively continued
Steve Hart Interviewed Suzzane Snively , one of many directors of Transparency International
the link to the recording is here
this is the second part of my comments on Suzanne’s interview
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Snively : We would not go after that specific instance we did raise that we need a more transparent approach of dealing with political appointments to boards etc.
My comment : Transparency alone will not resolve such issues , it is about accountability and when there is no accountability to the public and politicians can do as they please then we live by the rule of might is right .
Corruption = Monopoly + Discretion – Accountability
John Banks
Snively : We are strong in our report about transparency in all political funding we expect businesses to be transparent so why not political parties
My comment : Transparency is even more important in the government sector . The use of secret trusts has reached epidemic proportions, again we have Len Brown receiving ¾ million from an unincorporated trust, i.e. unidentifiable, that is anonymous. Six months after the complaint was lodged nothing has happened. Police don’t know how to deal with trusts least of all trusts which do not exist.
In a Mayday parade in the Soviet Union. After the tanks and the troops and the planes and the missiles rolled by there came ten men dressed in black.
“Are they Spies?” Asked Gorby?
“They are economists,” replies the KGB director, “imagine the havoc they will wreak when we set them loose on the Americans”
Gambling. Conference center
Snively : fast forward to 44.33 for her comments they have me scratching my head
My comment : Sky city is part of the committee for Auckland , there appears to be extraordinary pressure placed on political parties and council officers from them.
An economist is someone who doesn’t know what he’s talking about – and make you feel it’s your fault.
Web site and Membership
Snively : we really like to be exclusive – inclusive as we can be
My comment : I thought this was a hoot the first word was exclusive which I am certain would be the true desire as persons bringing examples of corruption to the meeting are not welcome .
The First Law of Economists: For every economist, there exists an equal and opposite economist.
The Second Law of Economists: They’re both wrong.
Steve Hart: Refers to my application to join transparency International (I have made three applications I set up Transparency NZ Ltd after being rejected )
Snively : I came in without the baggage of the people who directed before me so I did not know about Grace so I was quite welcoming that she might be a member but if you look at her web site she is strongly anti our chapter and people who want to be members need to be supportive.
My comment: Suzanne Snively is but one person, one vote in an incorporated society , does her statement mean that there is not a democratic process for the selection of members . When I last spoke to Susan about membership she told me I had to get rid of my company name as it was too close to their name.
I believe that I am supportive of the aims and objectives of Transparency International as set out in their constitution, perhaps Suzanne needs to take a hard look at what she is doing and take time out to read her societies rules.
Refer to my post to another director of Transparency International New Zealand
One day a woman went for a walk in her neighborhood and came across a boy with some puppies. “Would you like a puppy? They aren’t ready for new homes quite yet, but they will be in a few weeks!”
“Oh, they’re adorable,” the lady said. “What kind of dogs are they?”
“These are economists.”
“OK. I’ll tell my husband.”
So she went home and told her husband. He was very interested to see the puppies. About a week later he came across the lad; the puppies were very active.
“Hey, Mister. Want a puppy?”
“I think my wife spoke with you last week. What kind of dogs are these?”
“Oh. These are Investigators.”
“I thought you said last week that they were economists.”
“Yeah, but they’ve opened their eyes since then.”
Linked in
The background to the linkedin saga is documented at this link the actual post on Linked in is Suzanne Snively ONZM _ LinkedIn
Snively : I am really very embarrassed my problem is that I am not a great linkedin or face book person I get over 300 emails per day which doesn’t leave me much time and I don’t get much sleep because there is a lot of work to do to build this chapter. When I went onto likedin I quickly filled out the profile thing and I was a new director so I just googled to see what the name was and of course Graces web site came up first and I thought oh that’s it so I put it down but we are an incorporated society and so Grace has obviously decided that she want a very similar name to ours and I made the mistake of thinking that she was the same as us and I changed it as you can see.
My comments:
1. Type in the word transparency and this is what comes up .. TI NZ comes up first every time
Transparency International New Zealand – TINZ
www.transparency.org.nz/
Transparency International New Zealand is the recognised New Zealand representative of Transparency International, the global coalition against corruption.
Transparency New Zealand
www.transparency.net.nz/
Apr 20, 2014 – Transparency New Zealand and Transparency International NZ are very different in that TI-NZ wishes to sell New Zealand to the world as the .
2. There is nothing on either link that would indicate whether it is an incorporated society or Limited liability company. Suzanne the economist simply assumed and assumed wrong.
3. As can be seen on the actual post Suzanne first writes down
Director
Transparency International
November 2010 – Present (3 years) | New Zealand Chapter
Transparency International – New Zealand Chapter is developing a growth strategy to work with
partners to build capability to that our reputation for high trust and integrity is as good as we are
perceived.
Then two below that
Executive Chair
Transparency International New Zealand Ltd
November 2010 – Present (3 years) | New Zealand
As a country with low corruption, New Zealand has the potential to be an examplar to others,
demonstrating how this can improve business profitability through lower cost of doing business in
overseas countries, better access, lower cost of capital and for those listed companies, a higher
yeilding share price.
It is sad that a person at the helm of an organisation has not checked out the structure of the organisation as they are run in very different ways
4. As to the name being similar we just need to look at the news item this week of Cadbury and Whittakers Whittaker’s wins ‘Berry Forest’ battle. Does transparency International New Zealand incorporated sound the same as Transparency New Zealand Limited ?
One night a policewoman saw an economist looking for something buy a light pole. She asked her if she had lost something there. The economist said, “I lost my keyes over in the alley.” The policewoman asked her why she was looking by the light pole. The economist responded, “it’s a lot easier to look over here.”
Minutes and agendas
Steve asked about the minutes and agendas, Suzanne goes on at length that they don’t have the resources and finances to get the minutes . I find it quite odd that an incorporated society with 100 members expects to have staff and does not have a properly appointed secretary.( it is a statutory requirement that an incorporated society should not be run for pecuniary gain )
The comments made by Snively really makes me wonder if she knows how an incorporated society operates. She may have sat on lots of councils but this is not a council, this is not a business this is an incorporated society where people are elected by the membership into specific roles to fulfill the functions of the society as set out in the rules.
It is the secretary’s function to take the minutes and type them up. Funding has nothing to do with it.
An economist returns to visit his old school. He’s interested in the current exam questions and asks his old professor to show some. To his surprise they are exactly the same ones to which he had answered 10 years ago! When he asks about this the professor answers: “the questions are always the same – only the answers change!”
My overall impression is that Snively is wanting to build the membership to increase the Funds so that she can be paid a wage. Welcome to the real world Suzanne. I don’t get paid either and I have not sold my soul to various government departments.That is why Transparency New Zealand is totally neutral We can criticize government departments and know it won’t affect our income.
An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn’t happen today.
– Laurence J. Peter
What does Transparency International – New Zealand Know about corruption ?
Open letter to the Directors of Transparency International New Zealand
The Governance body of Transparency New Zealand Limited hereby wishes to express concerns with regards to the ” integrity ” of your organization
You may or may not be aware that Transparency New Zealand was formed when Director Grace Haden was declined membership to TI-NZ on an application which stated that she was a Former police prosecuting Sergeant , Member of the certified fraud examiners association and a licensed private Investigator.
Transparency New Zealand and Transparency International NZ are very different in that TI-NZ wishes to sell New Zealand to the world as the least corrupt country, while Transparency New Zealand wishes to expose corruption so that it does not spread.
We often hear of people who have had cancer and ignored it , their fate is all too often sealed , then there are those who identify cancer early and act , they generally have a much better prognosis ( depending on the type of cancer )
Corruption and cancer are pretty much the same thing. Cancer is caused by the corruption of cells.
We cannot deny that corruption exists , we cannot simply pretend that it is not there and above all we must never reward bad behaviour e.g. by claiming that those who in reality conceal corruption have integrity ( your integrity study )
While Transparency International New Zealand deals with perceptions , Transparency New Zealand deals with reality .
The reality is that every day peoples lives are destroyed by our unjust legal system which has no accountability and has become a tool which criminals use to commit and conceal crime.
Our very own minister of Justice said this week that we have a legal system not a justice system
The old saying that it is a court of law not a court of justice is some what cynical and unfortunately is true
yet TI- NZ states ” The judiciary provides a system of justice in accordance with the requirements of a legislative framework.” page 107 Integrity Plus 2013 NZ NIS ..
So could some one please explain why TI-NZ believes that the court deliver justice when the people know it does not and this belief even extends to the minister of justice ! TI NZ state ” The court system is seen to be free of corruption and unlawful influence.” It is obvious from that statement that no one involved in the integrity survey has spoken to any of the actual court users especially those involved in the family or civil courts
While Transparency New Zealand ‘s stated objective is to seek accountability and is true to that objective , this does not appear to be the case with TI-NZ with its objectives.
1. TI-NZ claims to be “nonpartisan ” but it wont let me or any other person who is in any way associated a victim of corruption join, RI NZ simply does not want to hear about the prevalence of corruption in New Zealand . There by proving that TI NZ only accepts members who claim that there is no corruption in New Zealand . yet its membership is full of government bodies and members of the universities .
2. TI-NZ will undertake to be open, honest and accountable in our relationships with everyone we work with and with each other..
yet Susan Snively on her linked in profile claimed to be the director of a company which did not exist Suzanne Snively ONZM _ LinkedIn. oops typo
Former director Michael Vukcevic slipps an LLb into his cv oops typo again
The profile of director Murray Sheard falsely portrays him to be a current lecturer at Auckland university in conflict with his linked in profile.. another typo ?
The web site of transparency International has been set up by an American resident also named Snively and using a company which there is no record of . ? Nepotism and use of another fictitious company again. But who would notice as the web site states that you need less due diligence in dealing with New Zealand companies.
3. Transparency International New Zealand appears to be supported by Business, government departments and academics amongst the members are the SFO, office of the auditor general , ombudsmen , Human Rights Commission, Ministry of Social Development, NZ Public Service Association, Ministry for Justice, Statistics New Zealand
- School of Government, VUW
- Ministry for Justice
- Statistics New Zealand
- The Human Rights Commission
- Ministry of Social Development
- The Treasury
- Inland Revenue
- Department of Internal Affairs
- Corrections
- Department of Conservation
- Ministry of Transport
- Civil Aviation Authority
- New Zealand Transport Authority
- Maritime New Zealand
- Te Puni Kokiri
- The State Services Commission
- The Ombudsman
- Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs
- The New Zealand Defence Force
- Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet
- The Serious Fraud Office
- Crown Law
- NZ Public Service Association
- The Gama Foundation
- Bell Gully
- VUW School of Government
- PwC
- Deloitte
- KPMG
- Human Rights Commission Launch Day
- School of Government Institute for Governance and Policy Studies Wellington
- Wellington Girls College
- Thorndon New World
- NZTE
- Institute of Directors
- BDO Spicers
- Russell McVeigh
- Chapman Tripp
- Gibson Sheat
- Susan Gluck-Hornsby
- Chen Palmer
- Juliet McKee
- Claudia Orange
- Te Papa
4. the objectives of TINZ appear to be to encourage business growth and a very dangerous claim is made that “Trading partners recognise cost savings for dealing with New Zealand through less need for due diligence, lower contracting costs, and a culture intolerant of corrupt middle men with whom to transact business.”
Transparency New Zealand believes that this statement is tantamount to entrapment as first you are ripped off and then you find you can do nothing about it. this all happens very publicly with hoards of people standing about saying I see nothing.
Transparency New Zealand advocates the ” trust but Verify ” approach to any dealings with any company or person anywhere .
5. TI-NZ claims to be “A caretaker of New Zealand’s high trust, high integrity society” But apparently as mentioned before they do not lead by example. We question what High integrity is when by our experience you simply cannot report corruption .
There is also a difference in what our definitions are of certain terms as illustrated in the FAQ section of the transparency international NZ web site
How do you define corruption? click link for TINZ,s definition
Transparency New Zealand :Corruption is dishonest activity in which a person acts contrary to the interests of the University and abuses his/her position of trust in order to achieve some personal gain or advantage for themselves, or provide an advantage/disadvantage for another person or entity.
It also involves corrupt conduct by an organization , or a person purporting to act on behalf of and in the interests of the organization , in order to secure some form of improper advantage for the organization either directly or indirectly.
Corrupt conduct can take many forms including:
conflicts of interest ( government departments paying for ” integrity” reports )
- taking or offering bribes
- dishonestly using influence ( promoting business in New Zealand though claims that there is no corruption )
- blackmail
- fraud
- theft
- embezzlement
- tax evasion
- forgery
- nepotism and favouritism( this includes having a relative designing a web site through a fictitious company )
NOTE: Corruption does not include mistakes or unintentional acts, but investigations are required to determine intent.
What is “transparency”?click link for TINZ,s definition
Transparency New Zealand : Being open , truthful and lacking concealment .
What is bribery? click link for TINZ,s definition
Transparency New Zealand : Bribery is an act of giving money or gift giving that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black’s Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or other person in charge of a public or legal duty.
The bribe is the gift bestowed to influence the recipient’s conduct. It may be any money, good, right in action, property, preferment, privilege, emolument, object of value, advantage, or merely a promise or undertaking to induce or influence the action, vote, or influence of a person in an official or public capacity.
What is fraud? click link for TINZ,s definition
Transparency New Zealand:Fraud is a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain . Fraud included Identity fraud and the use of ” organizations” which do not exist. In New Zealand one of the largest vehicles for fraud are trusts .
Transparency New Zealand is extremely concerned with the conduct of TI-NZ . We suspect that the directors have handed over the reins to just one person an economist who misunderstands the importance of corruption prevention . We suspect that her objectives are to assist business development and growth rather than combating corruption . We believe that Susan Snivley is an excellent business woman with an objective of bringing in money rather than an objective of independence.
True corruption prevention comes from Accountability , I gave this example of accountability to a director of TINZ recently with regards to Suzanne Snively LinkedIn profile which claimed she was the director of transparency International Limited
We believe that Susan Snively wished to create a false perception of her abilities , she was blowing her trumpet too vigorously and duplicated some of her roles and presented those as though they were different entities.
Because no one checks in New Zealand when may have believed that she could get away with it.. this is often the case.
Corruption = Monopoly + discretion – accountability
Susan had control over her Linked in account .. Monopoly
She and she alone had discretion of what was presented.
We are holding her accountable
= Linked in profile changed. and no corruption
I also gave an example of perception
When I was on Police patrol in Rotorua , I saw a decapitated cat on the road, I made a comment to the driver about the grizzly find.
He disagreed with me and said that it was nothing more than a plastic bag.
Because our views were so different we went back and on close inspection found that we were both right, it was a cat with its head stuck in a plastic bag.
The reality was that he cat lived to see another day . Happy ending !!!!
When you deal with perceptions you cannot just look from one side. You have to look at the facts and consider the views of many and not just a few.
You cannot promote the lack of corruption by will fully being blind and intentionally ignoring the corruption which is occurring.
To examine the corruption which is occurring and to call for accountability for those involved is what will prevent corruption from blowing out of control.
What good are laws which are not enforced, codes of conduct which are ignored , and processes which are flawed.
ACCOUNTABILITY is what we should be insisting on , and by doing a report showing e.g. that the auditor Generals office is doing fantastic work , when they are openly ignoring corruption and fraud, does not serve NZ .
A report which has been funded by the party concerned is not an impartial report.
The office of the auditor general is a member of transparency International and has given $15,000 and $30,000 in two consecutive years ( I have not checked beyond that ) when you get $30,000 from someone and want to get $30,000 again next year you will give them a favourable report. This process is akin to reverse bribery where the state is paying someone to give a glowing report .
Being no partisan and apolitical is not enough TI NZ should be totally Neutral and not be acting for an on behalf of businesses in New Zealand to encourage business growth.
I look forward to working with Transparency International New Zealand to truly strive to make New Zealand Transparent by focusing on ACCOUNTABILITY . I would like to start by making Transparency International Accountable to their code of ethics and the definitions of fraud and corruption which I have provided above.
We look forward to hearing from the directors of TI-NZ and we undertake to publish their response .











