Archive for September 2011

Truth is never defamatory

We refer to my posts below re Jonathon Mann   and Dr Gerald Waters.

We have received a letter from their lawyers  to which, in the interest of transparency, we reply to as follows.

Open letter to  Alan Ringwood

Thank you for your letter dated 22 September. alan ringwood letter

We note that you state it is not for publication. At transparency we act in an open  and transparent manner  and   we do not  do confidential deals as in our opinion  this encourages corruption..

If you believe there is some legal reason why the letter cannot be published please advise us of the act and section and we will consider   that.

 

You state that you  act for  IHO Limited (“IHO”) and for its directors Dr Gerald Waters and Elizabeth Pillinger and  for Mr Jonathon Mann, we  wish to draw your attention to the following

  1. IHO Limited has one shareholder IHO Holdings Limited
  2. You will notice that on the share  picture  the large  dark area is the ownership of EGMONT TRUSTEES JMIHO LIMITED  we have it on good  authority that  these shares are owned by Jonathon Mann
  3. Mr Mann is a disqualified director  and has in the past few weeks  either entered a plea of guilty or been found guilty of running a company while disqualified.
  4. The  company HQ PHYSIOLOGY LIMITED which is now in liquidation  , marketed the Fix product .
  5. The product was masterminded by Mann and when the company was wound up he got his flat mate Dr Gerald Waters and his new girlfriend Elizabeth Pillinger to become directors.
  6. Our  investigations reveal this is a common MO  ( modus operandi ) of Mr. Mann  who  then runs the company  in the background. So any one dealing with  IHO is actually dealing  with Mr Mann  and  since he is a con artist  this is a fact that    people may wish to  consider  when becoming involved.

It concerns us that you  claim that the web site is defamatory ,We note that you claim to be a defamation lawyer . As a defamation lawyer you will also be aware that  truth is never defamatory   and that honest opinion  is a defence. Truth   Honest opinion    Honest opinion where corrupt motive attributed to plaintiff.

We can assure you that what we have written is truthful    however if you have evidence to the contrary I hope that you  can supply that  to us  and we will consider  it.

We also draw your attention to section 25, Your clients have been aware of the web site for  some time now   and they are well outside the 5 day period , I can make the  copy of the defamatory post    by Dr Gerald Waters  available to you   should you require it.

You also complain about the breach of copy right perhaps you need to take that up with Food town as the photo is mirrored from their site.

You allege that we suggest that the fix product is a scam , could you please point out where  we have  made that allegation   as in  reading our site we  believe that it makes it quite clear  that  was advise  caution for anyone buying  in to any  product promoted by  Jonathon Mann and he has been promoting FIX as a healing agent.

We note that its trade marked as a pharmaceutical and medicinal preparations, to that end  could you please provide  the evidence  that it is  licensed accordingly .( Trade Mark Number (210) 812005)  If we do not hear  we will  presume that it is not  licensed and will  ensure that appropriate action  for the protection of the public, is taken .

We do note that it is not listed on the med safe  web site   could you  please advise why it is not listed. If not is  a  Pharmaceutical product   is the trademark under that category not misleading?

We also  appreciate that you claim FIX  is natural,   just because something is natural does not  infer that it is  good for you  and does not make it a medicine.

Arsenic is  natural. It kills!

As to the comments of Dr  Waters, when a  medical  doctor  , specialising in renal makes  a public statement  with regards to a  person he has not examined  and calls them “sociopathic” , then we think that this  is serious enough to  bring to the attention  of the  medical profession, especially when he uses the hospital board computers to post this   comment ( which has been  moderated  as we will not be part of any defamation )

Sociopath in our interpretation  is “a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behaviour is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience”  further interpretations are found here

The complaint we have lodged with regards to  Dr Waters Action has no  doubt sparked this knee jerk reaction, He is a health professional  who is working with a convicted fraudster who has  passed himself off as a health professional. We  would have thought  that Doctors should not be seen to condone this  action and should distance themselves from it.

We do not have a campaign against Mr Mann, our desire is to have an open and transparent society where people can openly warn each other of scams and scamsters , so that  we can reduce  the number of victims.

With regards to the Verisure site

Con  is short for convicted and  confidence  , there can be no doubt that Mr Mann is a convict, “”a person found guilty of a crime and sentenced by a court”   and that he has  used confidence trickery to make others believe that he had  qualifications which he did not possess.

The  truth Hurts.  So when people act  with integrity they can only be portrayed with integrity, when   they choose to act   in  a contrary manner  we have the right of freedom of speech  and the right to warn others.

We have no intention of damaging the IHO business our intention is to  ensure that anyone who deals with Mr Mann and his  companies  do so  with eyes open.

We are  happy to alter  or remove any material from the sites  if  you provide the evidence which shows that  we are  wrong  .

Please be advised that any response will be published in the interest of transparency.

 

why does Dr Gerald Waters protect con Mann Jonathon Mann?

Today two separate blogs  have had  threats and defamatory comments posted on them   by Dr Gerald Waters  who saw  fit to send  these emails from the Waikato district health boards servers.

The comments have been edited  by the respective blog administrators. The  emails in each case were from gerald.waters@gmail.com  , the fact that they were sent through the  Hospital servers proves to us that they were sent by him as  we  have established that he works there.

Now we have received even further  threats  which  are on this PDF Re_ Blog update in which he is now claiming to have been defamed  we have asked him how he feels that he is defamed  and will make   adjustments if that is the case  but   we have done our research and  have  done no more than present facts.

We have to question  Why a medical doctor  is seeking to protect  a man who has been convicted of no less than 17  counts of misrepresenting himself as an osteopath and physiotherapist and carrying out treatment on unsuspecting patients around Auckland.

Dr Waters  who  is jumping to dangerous conclusion with regards to the administrators of the blog,  practises medicine under supervision in the Internal Medicine training programme in Waikato hospital.

He is so bold as to deny   that events he  was not part of to be untrue  when those who run the blog  have  first hand and personal experience of Mr Manns tactics.

He is intricately connected with Jonathon Mann  as can be seen by the address he has used in the company registrations  for  the product which he markets for Mann through IHO LIMITED which has one share holder IHO HOLDINGS LIMITED for which Waters  updates the share holders details  including the entry which transfered Shares into his name

We believe that  Dr Gerald waters  has crossed the line in   protecting and supporting a con Mann and calling his victims  sociopaths and fraudsters .

to us this is an  ethical issue  , one which appears to be a case in which a doctor is condoning  unlawful actions  and  wishing to   silence those who seek to warn  others  with regards to the modus operandi of Mann.

The NZ bill of rights  grants us freedom of expression   no doctor should ever threaten any one with police action for attempting to spare others the  agony of being conned.

Registration Information for Waters, Gerald Philip

Name

Waters, Gerald Philip

Qualifications

MB ChB 2000 Otago

District

Hamilton

Scope of Practice

General
Dr Waters practises medicine under supervision in the Internal Medicine training programme.

Practising Certificate

From 1 March 2011 to 29 February 2012

Conditions

None

General Scope

7 December 2001

Provisional Scope

1 December 2000

 

 

Jonathon Mann seeks to silence victims

A  victim of a scam run by Jonathon Steven Mann was  approached  by not one  but several other persons who have  also been  scammed by him.

She saw the  devastation this man has caused in  their lives  and recalls the damage this it did to her own , she knew how  cleverly  she had been played  and there was no  concrete proof   which the police   would    act on   yet  there she was like others     thousands spent , empty promises  and  the  overwhelming feeling of betrayal.

So being a public spirited person   this victim thought that enough was enough   and started a blog so that others could be   forewarned only to find that Jonathon Steven Mann had moved swiftly to have the blog taken down.

People have a right to know who is out there scamming    so transparency  New Zealand  is   getting  behind the project.

Jonathon Steven Mann came out from the UK in about 2002, there are unconfirmed   reports of convictions in his alias  Jonathon Macdonald .

We have located  a judgement  which relates to  fraudulent activities  of  Jonathon Mann IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF NEW ZEALAND

And now there  are  see three newspaper items  with regards to his latest escapades.

  1. Fake physiotherapist fined
  2. Ministry springs fake gym physio
  3. Physio charged with being fake

We believe that he is currently before the court on charges of running a  business while disqualified  for  running   the company  HQ PHYSIOLOGY LIMITED.

This company    through Mann     developed a cream  called FIX   ,  this is now being marketed by IHO Limited  owned by  IHO HOLDINGS LIMITED which is  being operated  By Dr Gerald Waters   who was Manns former  Flat mate   and  also By Manns current girlfriend Elizabeth Anne PILLINGER

Both companies were  originally set up  by Colin GREEN on  behalf of Jonathon Mann. Green  is  a photographer in the UK and a relative of Mann  . 

There is a Company in the UK  IHO FIX (UK) LIMITED   which is run from the same town as Green lives in .

green acknowledges his connection in his linked in profile Colin Green _ LinkedIn

Inquiries  have been made with the manufacture of the product  Fix which is a New Zealand based company called Jaychem. And is sold in the UK and   promoted through  foodtown.

Our investigations reveal that Mr Mann has posed as a biochemist in the past. We believe that he developed the product  in conjunction with Jaychem.

We have expressed our concerns  to Jaychem   who   despite the fact that they have a vested interest,  have assured us that they stand by the product and endorse it .

Jonathan Mann has been approaching various people  to  invest in this product .

We recommend  independent  testing of the product before  any one invests.

Many people  invest time ,  services   in return for shares   in IHO Holdings  Limited of which Mann is the major share holder through  EGMONT TRUSTEES JMIHO LIMITED

We can only advise caution  based on  our findings as set out  above and the verbal evidence that we  have collected from  many more  who have been scammed by  Jonathon Mann  such as  represented by this  report. jonathon-mann-and-the-dentalman-book 

the full book is available at http://youtu.be/apnuyB5busk