Archive for September 2011
We refer to my posts below re Jonathon Mann and Dr Gerald Waters.
We have received a letter from their lawyers to which, in the interest of transparency, we reply to as follows.
Open letter to Alan Ringwood
Thank you for your letter dated 22 September. alan ringwood letter
We note that you state it is not for publication. At transparency we act in an open and transparent manner and we do not do confidential deals as in our opinion this encourages corruption..
If you believe there is some legal reason why the letter cannot be published please advise us of the act and section and we will consider that.
You state that you act for IHO Limited (“IHO”) and for its directors Dr Gerald Waters and Elizabeth Pillinger and for Mr Jonathon Mann, we wish to draw your attention to the following
- IHO Limited has one shareholder IHO Holdings Limited
- You will notice that on the share picture the large dark area is the ownership of EGMONT TRUSTEES JMIHO LIMITED we have it on good authority that these shares are owned by Jonathon Mann
- Mr Mann is a disqualified director and has in the past few weeks either entered a plea of guilty or been found guilty of running a company while disqualified.
- The company HQ PHYSIOLOGY LIMITED which is now in liquidation , marketed the Fix product .
- The product was masterminded by Mann and when the company was wound up he got his flat mate Dr Gerald Waters and his new girlfriend Elizabeth Pillinger to become directors.
- Our investigations reveal this is a common MO ( modus operandi ) of Mr. Mann who then runs the company in the background. So any one dealing with IHO is actually dealing with Mr Mann and since he is a con artist this is a fact that people may wish to consider when becoming involved.
It concerns us that you claim that the web site is defamatory ,We note that you claim to be a defamation lawyer . As a defamation lawyer you will also be aware that truth is never defamatory and that honest opinion is a defence. Truth Honest opinion Honest opinion where corrupt motive attributed to plaintiff.
We can assure you that what we have written is truthful however if you have evidence to the contrary I hope that you can supply that to us and we will consider it.
We also draw your attention to section 25, Your clients have been aware of the web site for some time now and they are well outside the 5 day period , I can make the copy of the defamatory post by Dr Gerald Waters available to you should you require it.
You also complain about the breach of copy right perhaps you need to take that up with Food town as the photo is mirrored from their site.
You allege that we suggest that the fix product is a scam , could you please point out where we have made that allegation as in reading our site we believe that it makes it quite clear that was advise caution for anyone buying in to any product promoted by Jonathon Mann and he has been promoting FIX as a healing agent.
We note that its trade marked as a pharmaceutical and medicinal preparations, to that end could you please provide the evidence that it is licensed accordingly .( Trade Mark Number (210) 812005) If we do not hear we will presume that it is not licensed and will ensure that appropriate action for the protection of the public, is taken .
We do note that it is not listed on the med safe web site could you please advise why it is not listed. If not is a Pharmaceutical product is the trademark under that category not misleading?
We also appreciate that you claim FIX is natural, just because something is natural does not infer that it is good for you and does not make it a medicine.
Arsenic is natural. It kills!
As to the comments of Dr Waters, when a medical doctor , specialising in renal makes a public statement with regards to a person he has not examined and calls them “sociopathic” , then we think that this is serious enough to bring to the attention of the medical profession, especially when he uses the hospital board computers to post this comment ( which has been moderated as we will not be part of any defamation )
Sociopath in our interpretation is “a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behaviour is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience” further interpretations are found here
The complaint we have lodged with regards to Dr Waters Action has no doubt sparked this knee jerk reaction, He is a health professional who is working with a convicted fraudster who has passed himself off as a health professional. We would have thought that Doctors should not be seen to condone this action and should distance themselves from it.
We do not have a campaign against Mr Mann, our desire is to have an open and transparent society where people can openly warn each other of scams and scamsters , so that we can reduce the number of victims.
With regards to the Verisure site
Con is short for convicted and confidence , there can be no doubt that Mr Mann is a convict, “”a person found guilty of a crime and sentenced by a court” and that he has used confidence trickery to make others believe that he had qualifications which he did not possess.
The truth Hurts. So when people act with integrity they can only be portrayed with integrity, when they choose to act in a contrary manner we have the right of freedom of speech and the right to warn others.
We have no intention of damaging the IHO business our intention is to ensure that anyone who deals with Mr Mann and his companies do so with eyes open.
We are happy to alter or remove any material from the sites if you provide the evidence which shows that we are wrong .
Please be advised that any response will be published in the interest of transparency.
Today two separate blogs have had threats and defamatory comments posted on them by Dr Gerald Waters who saw fit to send these emails from the Waikato district health boards servers.
The comments have been edited by the respective blog administrators. The emails in each case were from email@example.com , the fact that they were sent through the Hospital servers proves to us that they were sent by him as we have established that he works there.
Now we have received even further threats which are on this PDF Re_ Blog update in which he is now claiming to have been defamed we have asked him how he feels that he is defamed and will make adjustments if that is the case but we have done our research and have done no more than present facts.
We have to question Why a medical doctor is seeking to protect a man who has been convicted of no less than 17 counts of misrepresenting himself as an osteopath and physiotherapist and carrying out treatment on unsuspecting patients around Auckland.
Dr Waters who is jumping to dangerous conclusion with regards to the administrators of the blog, practises medicine under supervision in the Internal Medicine training programme in Waikato hospital.
He is so bold as to deny that events he was not part of to be untrue when those who run the blog have first hand and personal experience of Mr Manns tactics.
He is intricately connected with Jonathon Mann as can be seen by the address he has used in the company registrations for the product which he markets for Mann through IHO LIMITED which has one share holder IHO HOLDINGS LIMITED for which Waters updates the share holders details including the entry which transfered Shares into his name
We believe that Dr Gerald waters has crossed the line in protecting and supporting a con Mann and calling his victims sociopaths and fraudsters .
to us this is an ethical issue , one which appears to be a case in which a doctor is condoning unlawful actions and wishing to silence those who seek to warn others with regards to the modus operandi of Mann.
The NZ bill of rights grants us freedom of expression no doctor should ever threaten any one with police action for attempting to spare others the agony of being conned.
Registration Information for Waters, Gerald Philip
She saw the devastation this man has caused in their lives and recalls the damage this it did to her own , she knew how cleverly she had been played and there was no concrete proof which the police would act on yet there she was like others thousands spent , empty promises and the overwhelming feeling of betrayal.
So being a public spirited person this victim thought that enough was enough and started a blog so that others could be forewarned only to find that Jonathon Steven Mann had moved swiftly to have the blog taken down.
People have a right to know who is out there scamming so transparency New Zealand is getting behind the project.
Jonathon Steven Mann came out from the UK in about 2002, there are unconfirmed reports of convictions in his alias Jonathon Macdonald .
We have located a judgement which relates to fraudulent activities of Jonathon Mann IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF NEW ZEALAND
And now there are see three newspaper items with regards to his latest escapades.
This company through Mann developed a cream called FIX , this is now being marketed by IHO Limited owned by IHO HOLDINGS LIMITED which is being operated By Dr Gerald Waters who was Manns former Flat mate and also By Manns current girlfriend Elizabeth Anne PILLINGER
Both companies were originally set up by Colin GREEN on behalf of Jonathon Mann. Green is a photographer in the UK and a relative of Mann .
There is a Company in the UK IHO FIX (UK) LIMITED which is run from the same town as Green lives in .
green acknowledges his connection in his linked in profile Colin Green _ LinkedIn
Our investigations reveal that Mr Mann has posed as a biochemist in the past. We believe that he developed the product in conjunction with Jaychem.
We have expressed our concerns to Jaychem who despite the fact that they have a vested interest, have assured us that they stand by the product and endorse it .
Jonathan Mann has been approaching various people to invest in this product .
We recommend independent testing of the product before any one invests.
We can only advise caution based on our findings as set out above and the verbal evidence that we have collected from many more who have been scammed by Jonathon Mann such as represented by this report. jonathon-mann-and-the-dentalman-book
the full book is available at http://youtu.be/apnuyB5busk