Bullies won’t get a Retraction Notice
On My web site www.Verisure.co.nz , I posted a blog item entitled Credit Consultants Debt Services scam ,
I have since received the following reply from a person purporting to represent this non existent entity. Credit Consultants reply to blog
As you may note from that email I have been rather bluntly TOLD by Brent Foster “re-tract immediately this post and any follow up posts”
Who does this person think he is ?
it appears that he is an operations manager who may suddenly have realizes that he has rather stuffed up with his paper work and silence is therefore the best protection he can ask for or on the other hand the scammer who is trying to keep a scam alive.
If he is the operations manager as claimed then he is acting in a manner which unfortunately typical in New Zealand . Its all about keeping the business image pristine.
I have a theory that business practice can be kept squeaky clean by acting in an ethical manner and sending out letters for debts which do not exist and through a company which does not exist is in my opinion not ethical and I am sure all would agree.
In New Zealand we also have such a thing as the Bill of rights section 14 of the bill of rights states 14 Freedom of expression
- Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, including the freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and opinions of any kind in any form.
I have chosen to exercise that right so Mr Foster, if he is a legitimate ” operations manager ” is now wishing to stop me from expressing my honest opinion and also any future honest opinions about an organisation which has no legal existence.
I would put money on the fact that the name on the letter J Francis is fictitious as this is the trend in these companies taking real action behind a shield of anonymity. So how do I know that Mr. Foster is a real person or yet another virtual person in “ damage control “
I am extremely concerned that there are individual in this country who have no legal standing who intimidate others into compliance and the events of today just show how it is done.
If you don’t know your rights you don’t have any.
I guess this approach today is no different to letter which was sent to me last week . How do I know that this is not all part of the same scam and that this person purporting to be Forester is acting to protect the scam?
I have not been given any evidence that Mr Foster or any company are legitimately acting for and on behalf of telstra clear, I know that they are not because there simply is no debt.
Telstra clear ave not told me the sum is outstanding and that they are going to pass it on to some one for collection , they cant as the account was settled nearly a month ago after they lost the payments.
In his letter Mr Foster claims that there there are “significant errors “let’s examine them.
Fact 1
I have attempted to open the web address given and the same message “The connection was reset” continues to some up
Fact 2
he claims that “Credit Consultants Debt Services is the Trading name for the legal entity Credit Consultants Group NZ Limited. “ Says who ? Where is the evidence ?
I have searched the intellectual property web site for trademarks and the words “Credit Consultants Debt Services” are not trade marked.
And yes I did find the amalgamation certificate , the company which was once named “ Credit Consultants Debt Services Limited “ amalgamated with others and the company was then struck off the register . as this link will show on the 7th February 2011.
When companies are struck off they cease to exist.
The companies office allows for companies to show the trading names etc alongside the registration record and as can be seen there is nothing .
Going back to the letter which I received.. there is nothing to indicate in that letter that this is
- A trading name
- A legal name
- Anything to identify who the real person is.
Mr Foster whoever he is ( and he is not a lawyer ) is now jumping up and down saying that the truth I have written is slander.. How can anyone slander something which has no legal or real existence and truth is never slander.
I re confirm that at this time Credit Consultants debt services does not exist and has never existed as the only one which ever existed was Credit Consultants debt services NZ limited the subtle difference being that one has the letters NZ in them and the other doesn’t.
Fact 3
I never said that the phone details were incorrect for Credit Consultants Group NZ Limited because I never discussed that company I only discussed the letter which I have in my possession from Credit Consultants debt services. I phoned and I recorded my observations.
I have phoned the numbers again and after queuing for some time get told to leave your details.. very transparent .. great way to scam you actually have no idea of who you are calling.
Now we get to the juicy part the threat firing an email off at 4.32 claiming that a retraction has to be sent By 5 pm is rather over the top even if Mr Foster is genuine.
Giving a full 28 minutes to jump to attention is what in my book is called bullying especially when
My original blog never mentioned the company which Mr Foster claims to represent.
- The web site did not work and still does not work
- That I do not have a debt
- That I feel harassed by the people who are demanding payment from me when there is no debt
- That whoever was demanding money from me was acting in a less than transparent manner in that they could not be identified as to the name of the legal entity.
Mr Foster You are quite right “You simply cannot make claims without the actual facts to back them up. “
And You are now making threats to me because I received a letter which I considered to be an anonymous bullying demand.
I am happy to receive an apology for your un acceptable actions and full evidence of the legitimacy of your action.
In fairness I will publish your apology and any conclusive evidence you may which to produce on this blog.
Regards
Grace Haden